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Re: Wife Beating

I admit that spousal abuse is a problem that needs addressing but I differ from a lot of people in the way to arrive at the solution. I KNOW that Truth is the only way to Solution land. This problem has two sides to it and both sides have to be addressed without PREJUDICE or PROPAGANDA.

My viewpoint might be the way it is because I am a man but so be it. If there is truth in it you work with it. If my masculinity helps me to arrive at the truth then it must be good. Give me your side and let's put them together for a workable solution. If there is no truth in yours my truth will expose it. That is why every one's view counts no matter how out of point it may seem at times.

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We know that women are creatures of Emotion (Left brained) while men are creatures of Logic (Right brained). God made them all because he has need for both. There is a time for Emotion and there is a time for Logic. Let me give you all an example.

Do you see the plight of the American Indian today? Do you know how it came about? Well, do you care to know? When Oyibo man came to the Americas; apart from the obvious chemical warfare waged against the Indians, the other Oyibo weapon is Divide and Conquer. In African they set one Tribe against another but in the Americas, to which they came first, they went further than that. They set wife against husband.

The European missionaries in Mexico went into Indian villages to teach the Indian women that their men are abusing them. "Why should you take that from your men" they asked? "Why not come to us so we can help you. The mission door is open to you. Any time your husband or man touches you just come to us, we will help save you from your man's masculine tyranny". The Indian woman ate the bait and her case and the case of her Race was sealed. Soon after this, Indian women with their children began to troupe into missionary compounds to run away from ABUSIVE husbands.

The truth is that none of the Millions of legs of Indian women and their children that crossed the gate of that mission Compound ever came out. They were all killed and incinerated because the Conquistadors had already arrived at the conclusion that the best way to control the Indian population is to control the population of their women. "If the men like," they surmised, "let them go and have sex with buffaloes". You see the result today so I need not narrate to you the consequences of that elaborate deception that women fell to. Europeans appealed to their emotion and they won. Sometimes, especially times such as we have in this debate, you need creatures of Logic.

All you need to do to deceive a woman is make eye contact with her as you are lieing to her and she will not know. She will say "I saw it in his eyes, he loves me, he is telling me the truth. Mhmm, this is it". But she is being lied to. It will take a creature of logic to say "well, you said that to the Indians and Aborigines first and today their plight is despicable. How am I sure you will not do the same to me?" This question, as simple as it is, could save a race from genocide.

After hundreds of thousands of Indian women and children have been trouping in to the missionaries and for years, Indian men began to ask questions such as; "when are they going to start coming out that went in there? Are you keeping them forever?" The answer they got was "the women are just taking their time, they will come out when the time is right".

The Indian men said, "your little mission compound and hut looks certainly too small to house the hundreds of thousands (which translates to millions of feet) that went in there, what is going on?" These hard questions forced out the truth. All those women and children were dead and incinerated and gone forever while more women are threatening to and some beginning to park up to go to the missionaries because 'they saw it in the eyes of these white men. They must be sincere in calling us out of this ABUSIVE condition. They love us more than our husbands'. "Foul", says Chief Zebrudaya. Creatures of logic had won the day. Do you see God's wisdom in making us men the way we are? The new age wants to change us but it can't.

How did the serpent deceive Eve? By showing her the forbidden fruit. "And she SAW that it was good and desirable for food so she ate it". WE are all doomed today. The reason why men have to be strong in the way they assert their values this time is that history shows that once "they" get a woman "they" get her man. Adam fell soon after Eve did. And God said "HE will Rule over YOU". Nobody can change that. Education to PhD level cannot. Money will not, even up to the tune of Gazillion.

How are we sure that this is not the new age divide-and-conquer. Africans circumcise men, Americans circumcise men therefore it is called circumcision. Some African tribes circumcise women, Americans do not circumcise women therefore it must be called GENITAL MUTILATION. Africans are oppressing their women. America has to teach those poor women to come out of this ABUSIVE situation. For crying out loud, when are we going to stop this "follow follow" and "common use our sense" (Fela). Africa has good values that we can teach the world. It is our time.

And women are buying this propaganda again. Some lady wrote ...that women want financial independence. They don't want to depend on their husbands. Men feel threatened therefore they are fighting and abusing us. Women want to go to space and have sex with Aliens etc etc. (Embellished) It is time for us men to rise again and ward off this foreign aggression because it is our God given duty. WE are PROTECTORS of women and children.

Bruno Jibunor
4/4/02

admin · Site Admin Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 5404

Re: [Chat-AfriK] Wife beating propaganda

Bruno:

Your historical perspective is well taken, however it is hard to determine which side you are on, or what solution you are suggesting. I hope to God that you are not therefore saying it is okay for the men to beat or abuse their wives, because this action was identified by the Oyinbo as a barbaric act against the very humans that the males promise to love and protect. The Logic and Emotion analogy is quite impressive; but what is your point dear African brother.

Much regards,
Mojreen
4/4/02

admin · Site Admin Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 5404

Re: Wife beating propaganda

Bruno Jibunor, You started out so well, I agree that name calling and insults get in the way of reaching solutions.

Oh my, but then you fell into prejudice and propaganda. Men and women are human beings. Some men are emotional, some are not. Some women are emotional, some are not. Spouse abuse is a problem. It has nothing to do with men or women's natures. It has to do with culture and society's expectations. The story about the missionaries and the women and children was almost funny, it was such a bunch of guff. The missionaries didn't do our people a lot of good, that is true.

Actually, they hated the tribes who were governed by women and worked very hard to dis-empower native women and men. The organizations of the tribes were very sophisticated and men and women were generally in cooperation. Under the white man, that changed. All were dis-empowered and drink and violence hurt the native families and tribes. That is still happening in the USA [where I live, it may be happening everywhere, but since I can only guess, my guess is just that]. That story you put out was pretty insulting and racist. Your indigenous brothers and sisters deserve better from a man, whom we suppose, knows what it is to have lies about his peoples' stupidity spread carelessly about.

Elizabeth
4/4/02
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admin · Site Admin Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 5404

Re: Wife beating

Dear Bruno,

I think I'd read enough of your below theories by the time I got to your statement that